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Those toys. Where does he get those wonderful toys?

Yes, this is a post about issue 67 of The Flash. Yes, it’s about James Jesse. Yes, I’m using a Joker quote as the title. There are a bunch of pages over at @gorogues review of the issue that are definitely worth checking out.

Setting aside everything else for a moment - for just a moment, I am having so many opinions - last I checked, the technology at James Jesse’s disposal covered
  • ridiculously advanced guns, up for sale
  • para-angels, possibly hired
  • something that yanked a kid out from under an entire collapsing building and dropped him safely (?) in Jesse’s lair
  • cameras studded in a really unnerving number of places around the city
  • mind control of an entire city
  • the ability to keep Barry Allen from recognizing him (?) (but would he want this? maybe to draw out the game right now? but surely not in general)
Excuse me, but what the hell? I do not know the comics that well, even now, but this scope of effect feels like I want to forget Nekron and start asking question about “Apokolips technology, hiring out of” or “failed recruits from the Renegades who decided to go back to the 20th century and are living their best lives in ignorance of the fact that they’re actually the Reverse Trickster”. Even assuming he’s still a guy who invented his own airwalkers (which I’m really happy to read it as), this feels way out of scope.

(The Barry Allen not recognizing him thing - look, James got thrown in jail, was not shy about referring to himself as the great James Jesse, and Barry Allen was both the Flash and a CSI. I kind of have to believe that Barry would know who he is. I don’t necessarily think it goes both ways - maybe James just arranged to have the Flash not remember him without knowing the Flash’s secret identity, maybe everyone doesn’t recognize or remember him - but Barry not recognizing him is really, really weird.)

And now that the above-mentioned moment’s over:

If I’m in a hurry, I usually summarize CW!James to people as “functionally the Joker”. It is a useful shorthand. It reflects his grandiosity, his threat level, his trickery, his venom, his willingness to murder people and think it’s funny, his showmanship, his TV tricks. (In the original series, he also brainwashed people and took over Central City!)

I am not happy to be able to see parallels between comics!James and CW!James. I never had a problem with how different they were - I chalked it up to “same name, different people” rather than bad adaptation - but I liked what I read of comics!Jesse and this… this…

I never got the impression he’d be gleeful about the Flash facing the greatest horror ever. The greatest challenge, the greatest trick, the greatest foe, sure… but the greatest horror?

From James Jesse?

Ehhhhhn.

If this was a James-centric story, I’d be hoping that what he wants from Commander Cold is a way to travel back in time so he can show his parents that he’s a success and they should be proud of him.

If he didn’t have this much technology at his disposal, I’d kind of wonder if he was after gadgets from the future, but Commander Cold doesn’t seem to have much new or different, and that’s not knowledge of the future, it’s more knowledge from the future.

I’m… vaguely going with the idea that he’s convinced he’s going to win in his current endeavour - whether that’s against the Flash specifically, against Wolfe specifically, against them both as he stuffs them in a jar and shakes it to make them fight - and he’s poking for knowledge of the future so he finds out how he wins and knows what to do, but that doesn’t quite feel like it’s gelled yet.

More general stuff:

James so help me if Axel is somewhere with a goofy anxious grin on his face I’mma have so many words.

Why did James let Detective Burns go? It’s not like her and Henry being in a relationship is easy to miss, and anyway they’re a cop and a quasi-cop. I’m wondering why he didn’t try threatening her to get Henry to cave, bluntly. Unless maybe he wanted her to be findable so that the Flash could go to her as a way to pry into things and set off the Stepford Smiler splash page?

I cannot for love blood or money tell if James knows Barry is the Flash and is deliberately not inflicting happiness so as to play with him (”I’m sure we’ll be seeing a lot of each other now”), or if he’s completely missed that his new girlfriend’s coworker back from vacation is the guy upon who he wishes to inflict the greatest horror (”I’m sure we’ll be seeing a lot of each other now”, but said sincerely).

Hff. I do want next issue, but I confess I’m not exactly cheerfully looking forward to it.

Spoilers for Flash #67!

Well said, and these are excellent points!

It’s hard to say whether Barry should know who James is, because continuity these days is so uncertain.  We know James has been in prison or laying low for years, and I don’t know how long Barry’s been back in current continuity.  I presume he did still die (or maybe just disappeared) in a Crisis at some point because we’ve seen glimpses of it, but his memories of pre-Crisis are clearly spotty at best.  Before Crisis Barry did recognize James in disguise sometimes, but he probably doesn’t remember it now if he barely has any recollection of his marriage to Iris.  And continuity has changed a bit, as we saw last issue with James’ and Axel’s histories (ie, Axel debuted during James’ long stint in prison and after James’ stint with the FBI and faked death in Countdown).  This is why I grumble about continuity being shuffled around so much over the past few years; nobody really knows what’s still intact or what the characters might know unless it’s explicitly stated.

I do hope Axel’s okay, and that James hasn’t harmed or mind-controlled him in any way :\

Just for fun, here’s Barry recognizing James in disguise many years ago.  It probably wasn’t one of his better ones.

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It’s more the combination of face and name that had me thinking that something’s weird.

Barry thinking “wow, this tall blond guy seems oddly familiar” - okay, totally happens. Nagging familiarity works.

Barry thinking “wow, this tall blond guy who was just introduced to me as James Jeisse seems oddly familiar, but I’m not reacting to his name at all, despite the fact that I battled the Trickster repeatedly (as per last issue) and that guy isn’t shy about calling himself James Jesse” - that seems weird. I guess it’s not quite like Barry not reacting to Kristen’s boyfriend being named Leonard Snart, but it’s hinky as hell.

(My brain will now go gently play with the idea that Wolfe did something to ensure everybody forgot Jesse, that that’s why Wolfe was so shocked when Mick remembered Jesse in the issue where Mick got the Sage Force, and that that’s why Jesse wants revenge on Wolfe. Which, like most of my headcanons, is a very non-Flash-centric one and this likely won’t be true. But it’s fun to theorize.)
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(The embedded last page can be seen at full size here if that’s easier to read.)

Spoilers for Flash #66!

You can see the first few pages here.

I was a bit disgruntled upon first reading this issue, but after re-reading it and some digesting I’ve decided I like it.  I will never not be grumpy about changes to canon – such is the life of a continuity nerd – but there are enough callbacks to continuity here that I’m satisfied it hasn’t all been thrown out and wasn’t done carelessly.

As you see here, the terrible scene with his parents at the circus was all part of a trick, which is a nice surprise.  His parents are clearly still awful, as I presume the scenes of them verbally abusing him in private and ignoring his attempts to connect with them are real, and of course they’re teaching their kid to steal and scam people.  But they’re no longer cartoonish monsters, which is a relief.  And, as we can see, the effects of their abuse are lasting into adulthood, with James still desperate to impress them/everyone.  Warden Wolfe contributed to that impulse too with his own abusive behaviour and his claims that no one remembers the first Trickster, but at heart I think James still wants to prove himself to his folks and win their approval.

And yes, Wolfe is the main villain here, not Neron.  Wolfe’s up to his old awful habits in a bit of inserted continuity, which now has James spending years in Iron Heights at the cruel mercies of a warden who tries to destroy his spirit, so we can see why James indicated in earlier issues that he’s getting revenge on Wolfe.  No wonder he and Axel are getting along so well; they’ve got a lot of painful history in common.

But after James escaped, Wolfe was so furious that he destroyed all records of his existence, which is a) facilitating James’ current scheme, b) explains why Wolfe flipped out when Mick mentioned James, and c) presumably part of what Kristen and David Singh have been investigating.  I like that there was early foreshadowing to this arc, and it sure will be satisfying if/when Wolfe experiences some consequences for his actions.  As I’ve said recently, I think Wolfe is a good antagonist and would like him to be around in some fashion, but it’d be nice to have someone keep him in check so he can’t continue his abuse.

As mentioned above, there are definitely continuity changes here, but also some direct callbacks to pre-Flashpoint canon.  In the ‘changed’ category, James’ parents are very different, he seems to have invented his airwalking shoes in young adulthood, and he worked with the FBI and “faked” his death in Countdown before Axel came along.  He also had a years-long stint in Iron Heights. (I kind of love that Countdown just gets dismissed like that, though.)  Another major change, however, is that he says “Money is everything.  If you don’t have it, you’re just a waste”, which is a lesson he’s taken from his revamped parents but is very much at odds with parts of James’ history.  This is the guy who gave back the money he’d stolen in the Silver Age simply because it didn’t interest him, and donated all the money he’d scammed in a major scheme to charity.  So I’m uneasy about this change.

Of course, it has occurred to me that we don’t know how much of James’ words are true and how much is Trickster bullshitting.  There’s a good chance his narration isn’t entirely honest, just as he fools the readers with the circus scene, so that’s something to keep in mind.  We’ll have to see what his ultimate scheme is, and what exactly he gets out of it.  If he’s looking for money above all, that’d be disappointing, but if he wants to take down Wolfe and show the world who’s the supreme Trickster (and maybe get some cash to support himself too), that’d be fine with me.

So as I said, I like the issue and think it works pretty well.  Very curious to see what this whole arc is like and what he’s got planned; the solicits certainly hint at it, but we’ve seen them be misleading.  I’m eager to see where this goes.

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Honestly, my only problem with this issue is the idea that James stole the research that he used for his air-walking shoes, instead of coming up with it himself.  James actually making his gadgets was always one of the reasons why I prefer him over Axel.

That, and everything in Countdown being reduced to “I faked my own death.”  James, buddy, you got shot in the head and chest, then Piper dragged your corpse across the desert and eventually cut your hand off.  How do you fake that?  Was it the world’s most realistic mannequin?  Countdown was terrible, so I don’t mind it being written off, but that’s a hell of a trick.

If it helps, he didn’t necessarily steal the tech for the airwalkers; you can read it as while pretending to be a lab tech to steal research that he then sold, he also picked up enough from STAR Labs in general that he figured out how to make airwalkers. (I mean, unless there’s some canonical Lexcorp use of the things.)

I continue to be glad that Mick knows about him.

(I am 80% sure that in the panel where he’s sneaking towards the old theatre, the letters on the marquee are meant to suggest “Flash vs Trickster”.)

Adding my voice to the chorus of voices wishing horrible things upon Wolfe. Again. Bad man.

((please consider that to be a reference to Jerome Bixby’s very old science fiction story “It’s a Good Life”, which contains the text “Bad man,” Anthony said, and thought Dan Hollis into something like nothing anyone would have believed possible, and then he thought the thing into a grave deep, deep in the cornfield. I am down for something like that happening to Wolfe, honestly. I accept he could be a great antagonist to keep around, but oh god there would be satisfaction in something horrible happening to him.))

Overall… Hmh. I’m glad to know where the continuity is coming from, I’m glad they’ve toned down the miles-of-abs (at least this issue), and I really liked the weight–through dialogue, art, and reference–that the entire issue gave to James’ final escape from Iron Heights. The twin guns are odd, but they work with the Western outlaw theme the issue’s establishing as a backstory element.

That said, I’m not quite at home yet to the… the note of desperation under how he’s driven? I get the sense of drama, but it feels like there’s a difference between that and “I’ll do anything to show the world I’m more than what you think of me”, and the latter seems…

I don’t know. Different. Other-defined. More Syndrome than Megamind, if you will pardon going very far afield from DC.

Mind, they could do some interesting things comparing and contrasting James’ desire to impress his family with Axel’s self-sacrifice to save his family, and I am kind of hoping that that comes up a little…!

(insert standard hopes for more Detective Burns and an explanation of how the hell Jesse got Axel out from under Iron Heights here)
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It’s almost as though cruelty and neglect can affect people’s mental health.  

Everyone gives Batman shit over the state of Arkham but no one ever talks about Iron Heights.

There was a bit of criticism for Iron Heights within the Flash book, such as when Ashley Zolomon called the prison “the Rogue Factory” (which she said was a widespread nickname) and accused Wolfe of having no compassion for its prisoners.  It seems quite likely that the mistreatment there has made some of the prisoners worse, with I think Roscoe as one of the prime examples.  And as awful as Arkham is, at least they make some attempt to treat their inmates; we’ve seen that Iron Heights leaves theirs barefoot in straitjackets and isolated in filthy cells.  So it’s no surprise that they end up even more mentally ill and anti-social, which is almost certainly what Ashley was alluding to.

Honestly, the sight of Axel Walker de-limbed and beaten and refusing to talk about it because Wolfe is actually scary (unlike the Flash) was a pretty scathing indictment.

(Fingers crossed for something happening to him in upcoming issues.)

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