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windona:
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windona:
“Think of all the lives Batman could save if he could kill the Joker” Please! Joker is a serial killer with a theme, prisons IRL would be able to hold him and the only reasons DC ones can’t is due to writers and the fact nobody in the DC universe wants to be a prison guard.
You just don’t want to admit that Man of Steel’s General Zod, who has a ton of super powers in a world just learning about Kryptonians and having zero way to contain or restrain him, is a better example of a villain that a hero might be justified in killing, because a) that would be to admit MoS wasn’t complete garbage and b) that the Joker is overhyped.
Before getting into who is and isn’t justified in killing people, I feel like it’s worth backing up and considering that bitching about how a goddamn civilian volunteer is not willing to commit murder is also a highly questionable tack to take.
(Hi I have opinions about how the Joker-killing argument is often presented.)
Agreed there, I made a separate post a while back about how the “Batman should be judge jury and executioner” argument sucks, with the idea being Batman should just kill him instead if arresting and allowing the justice system and (ideally) the people of Gotham to have justice and decide the Joker’s fate.
That’s part of why Batman v Joker being the argument baffles me. There’s zero justification for Batman to not bring the Joker in alive! Joker is a serial killer, can be taken down non-lethally, and if Batman is acting as a specialized detective/operative then he should bring in the Joker non-lethally. Since it’s essentially a detective versus serial killer scenario and plenty of police irl bring in serial killers alive to stand trial.
Reblogged for commentary. :)
windona:
peppersandcats:
windona:
“Think of all the lives Batman could save if he could kill the Joker” Please! Joker is a serial killer with a theme, prisons IRL would be able to hold him and the only reasons DC ones can’t is due to writers and the fact nobody in the DC universe wants to be a prison guard.
You just don’t want to admit that Man of Steel’s General Zod, who has a ton of super powers in a world just learning about Kryptonians and having zero way to contain or restrain him, is a better example of a villain that a hero might be justified in killing, because a) that would be to admit MoS wasn’t complete garbage and b) that the Joker is overhyped.
Before getting into who is and isn’t justified in killing people, I feel like it’s worth backing up and considering that bitching about how a goddamn civilian volunteer is not willing to commit murder is also a highly questionable tack to take.
(Hi I have opinions about how the Joker-killing argument is often presented.)
Agreed there, I made a separate post a while back about how the “Batman should be judge jury and executioner” argument sucks, with the idea being Batman should just kill him instead if arresting and allowing the justice system and (ideally) the people of Gotham to have justice and decide the Joker’s fate.
That’s part of why Batman v Joker being the argument baffles me. There’s zero justification for Batman to not bring the Joker in alive! Joker is a serial killer, can be taken down non-lethally, and if Batman is acting as a specialized detective/operative then he should bring in the Joker non-lethally. Since it’s essentially a detective versus serial killer scenario and plenty of police irl bring in serial killers alive to stand trial.
Reblogged for commentary. :)
